How to Build a Forbes-Style Artist Valuation Comparison: Fitzpatrick vs. Olivia Rodrigo
You see these matchup articles all over the internet, usually starting with some dramatic premise and ending with a number that means nothing because nobody shows their work. I spent about six months building a proper earnings tracker for pop artists after my first attempt at this kind of thing fell apart when I realized most of the numbers online were recycled from three-year-old articles. Here's how to actually do it without making up data. The core problem with comparing these two isn't the methodology — it's that their revenue streams are fundamentally different in structure and timing. A straight apples-to-apples comparison without adjusting for that will give you garbage results, and anyone presenting a single final dollar figure is either guessing or cherry-picking. Ben Platt's character "Evan Hansen" was referenced by fans as "Fitz" early on because of misheard lyrics and inside jokes from the Broadway community. When people search for "Fitz," they're almost always looking for content related to Ben Platt's career post-Dear Evan Hansen, his music releases, and his public persona. Olivia Rodrigo is a charting pop artist with a completely different revenue architecture. That's the real comparison underneath whatever headline you're reading.
Setting Up Your Revenue Categories
Forbes evaluates artists using several standardized buckets. You need to replicate at least four of them to make the comparison credible. Anything less and you're just picking whichever number supports the argument you already want to make. The buckets are: recorded music revenue, streaming performance, touring and live performance income, brand endorsements and partnerships, and social media influence value. Each one has its own data source and each one requires different assumptions. Recorded music is the easiest — publishing databases and PROs like ASCAP, BMI, and SoundExchange give you mechanical and performance royalty splits. Streaming is where things get messy because per-stream rates vary by platform, territory, and the artist's deal structure. When I was tracking these numbers for a personal project, I found that using a flat $0.003 per stream for Spotify was way too simplistic. The actual blended rate across all of an artist's catalogs, accounting for premium versus ad-supported plays, publisher cuts, and label recoupment, landed closer to $0.002 to $0.0025 in most cases. That difference of half a cent per stream multiplied by hundreds of millions of plays is the difference between an estimate being useful and being completely wrong. You have to account for the fact that Olivia Rodrigo's earlier TikTok discovery pattern means a higher proportion of her streams come from ad-supported free tiers, which pay roughly a third of what premium subscribers generate.
Touring Income: Where the Real Numbers Live
Touring revenue is typically the largest line item for most pop artists, but it's also the hardest to pin down accurately because it depends on ticket sales data that promoters don't fully disclose, venue configurations that change show by show, and ancillary revenue like merch that varies by market. For Ben Platt's theater and concert work, you're looking at different pricing structures and capacity constraints than what Olivia Rodrigo operates at — legitimate theater seats don't scale the same way arena tickets do, and the per-show gross ceiling is fundamentally different even before you factor in the number of shows per tour leg. Billboard's Boxscore is the closest thing to a reliable public source for touring data, and it only covers North American shows. If you're building a global estimate, you need to account for international legs separately using publicly reported attendance figures from each market's box office or promoter press releases. I used to just multiply domestic gross by 1.4 as a rough international adjustment, but that failed hard for artists whose international popularity doesn't match their domestic profile. A better approach is to look at each tour's setlist.fm dates, cross-reference with venue seating charts on Google, and apply local ticket pricing from the promoter's announcement rather than assuming a uniform global ticket price.
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Streaming Numbers and the Catalog Problem
Getting accurate streaming data requires pulling from multiple sources and then reconciling the discrepancies. Chart data from Billboard, Spotify's public follower and play counts, Apple Music's chart positions, and YouTube's view counts all tell slightly different stories about the same catalog. I spent weeks figuring out how to normalize these, and the workaround I ended up using was to establish a baseline from official chart certifications — gold, platinum, multi-platinum equivalents in streaming units — and then use Spotify and Apple Music counts only to verify the relative performance of individual songs within that catalog. This prevents the error of trusting a raw Spotify number that might include playlist pushes or algorithmic features that inflate the count without reflecting genuine fan engagement. Olivia Rodrigo's two albums generated well over ten billion combined streams across all platforms within their first eighteen months. Ben Platt's solo discography, while critically praised, occupies a different market segment entirely and doesn't approach those cumulative numbers. That's not a value judgment on the quality of either artist's work — it's simply the structural reality of where the streaming audience concentrates. A musical theater recording artist and a Gen Z pop superstar are serving fundamentally different listener pools, and any fair comparison has to acknowledge that the comparison is more about career trajectory and market positioning than it is about who's "winning."
Endorsements and Influence
This category is where assumptions do the most damage. Endorsement deals are almost never publicly disclosed with dollar amounts, so you're working from industry benchmarks and any available leaks or social media evidence. A major pop artist at Olivia Rodrigo's level in her peak cycle could command six-figure deals per campaign, possibly seven figures for long-term brand ambassadorships. Ben Platt's brand work tends to skew toward theatrical, literary, or advocacy partnerships rather than mass-market consumer endorsements, which shifts the dollar estimate considerably. The workaround for missing data is to look at posting frequency, brand alignment history, and any available agency representations. If an artist's talent agency lists brand partnership as a stated service offering and the artist has posted about sponsored content in the last twelve months, you can estimate a base rate using the artist's tier placement within the agency's roster. I keep a running document of these estimates for artists I track, and I mark every number with its confidence level — high, medium, or speculative — so that when I combine everything into a final comparison, it's clear which figures are grounded and which are educated guesses.
Putting It Together Into a Ranking
The final step is combining all categories into a single annual earnings estimate and then placing both artists on the same visual scale. Forbes typically publishes a ranked list, but the ranking itself is less useful than the earnings range each artist falls into. An artist making $15 million in a year and one making $80 million aren't competing in the same bracket, and the gap between them matters more than their relative position within that gap. For anyone building this comparison themselves, I recommend using a shared spreadsheet with separate tabs for each revenue category, date-stamping every data point, and noting the source URL next to each number. The moment you stop doing that, you lose the ability to update the comparison when new tour dates are announced, new album certifications drop, or endorsement news breaks. The whole exercise collapses if the underlying data is stale. The honest takeaway is that a Forbes-style ranking between Ben Platt and Olivia Rodrigo reveals two artists operating in adjacent but distinctly separate markets. The methodology works fine — the trick is knowing when the methodology hits its limits and being transparent about it instead of pretending the gap between two very different career paths can be squeezed into a single clean number.
